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  • #30234
    neotheone
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    David,

    Great forum and you guys are doing an excellent job!!!
    Going by few of your replies, seems i ll hv a tough time getting admit from schools of my choice.

    My Profile:
    Indian/IT/Male

    Undergrad: REC-K (One of the top engg. schools in india)
    GPA : Can’t translate but can say average ~ 3.1-3.2
    GMAT : 750 Q (99%) V(89%)

    Workex: Got six years of work-ex, all in IT.
    Worked for 2.5 yrs in Indian Railways’ IT division. Was appreciated a numerous times by client and seniors. Was architect of whole system which is deployed across india.

    Worked for 1 yr in US MNC in india. Nothing great here.

    Currently working for IBM for the last 2 yrs.
    Worked in biggest accounts.
    Led a team of 4 ppl in Singapore in two previous projects.
    Currently leading a team of 7 ppl for a big project with huge cost savings.

    Additional: Nothing great in extra-curriculars. Won a few quiz contests. Represent company in national level quiz.
    Community-Ex: Nothing great here too. Did 1 yr vounteering with NSS (teaching kids).

    Post-MBA goals:
    Want to switch frm an IT-Lead to Business Consultant role. Hv short listed a few schools not sure.

    UT-Austin (Tech Friendly)
    Rotman (Low cost+ wife will get a job easily)
    Indiana (Consulting)

    Questions:
    1. BIG Q -How can i differentiate myself from others in my pool?
    2. Which all are best schools for consulting?
    3. My chances for UT-Austin,Rotman, Kelley & Purdue.

    TIA
    Amit

    #30238

    Hi Sayanta and thanks for your inquiry.

    Hi David,

    I’ve been reading quite a fre of your replies, and they’re great. Though they answer quite a few of my doubts, I guess my head popped me with a few more. It’d be great if you could assist me in answering my queries.

    Allow me to give you a a brief introduction. I have done my Bachelor’s (which is a 3-year course) majoring in Physics from one of the top schools in India. The only hassle being that I achieved a 2.4 as my undergrad GPA score. In extra-curriculars, I was actively a part of the student body, and have been in leadership positions like president of a society and the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the student body for a year. After graduating, I have been working for approximately 2 years with McKinsey & Co. I just gave my GMAT and got a score of 720.
    I am thinking of applying to the top-tier b-schools, like HBS, Sloan, Stern et al.

    First question is :
    In my case, how much of a let down is my undergrad GPA ?
    And second question is :
    Where do i approximately in the international applications arena ?

    Most likely you are going to need to put together a concise alternate transcript – assuming you properly calculated your GPA. (Hint: Don’t straight line it.) Whatever the case may actually be, there is no reason why you can’t be competitive at a top school if you’ve been doing strategy consulting for McKinsey.

    Thanks beforehand for your reply !

    Sayanta

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30239

    Hi TSA and thanks for your inquiry.

    David,

    I am applying R1 to schools like Sloan, HBS and Stanford and some other top 10 schools in R2. My details are as follows:

    If you haven’t checked out my September David’s Corner on http://www.businessschooladmission.com you might want to. I discussed application round strategies.

    – Major: Biology and Economics
    – GPA: 3.4 from a top-tier school in the US
    – GMAT: 670 V (81%) Q (79%) AWA 6.0
    – Work Experience: 3+ years in consulting – currently at Booz Allen
    – Recommendations: Solid
    – Additional: Lots of extracurriculars, increased focus on third world development, betterment of women’s social status. I am from a third world country myself but am a permanent resident of the US.

    I wanted to get a sense of what you feel chances are like – I realize that the GMAT score is on the lower end but the reason I didnt retake it was mainly because both verbal and quant. were reasonably balanced with a good AWA and because I didnt think I would go up by 30+ points and I wanted to dedicate that time to creating a good story and package.

    If you look at the 20%-80% range at the top schools, you will see you fall within that range. With well-prepared applications, you should be competitive at the top schools.

    Any insight at all would be much appreciated!

    TSA

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30240

    Hi Amit and thanks for your inquiry.

    David,

    Great forum and you guys are doing an excellent job!!!

    Thanks. I share a bit of what I know which is a portion of what our consultants actually know…

    Going by few of your replies, seems i ll hv a tough time getting admit from schools of my choice.

    My Profile:
    Indian/IT/Male

    Undergrad: REC-K (One of the top engg. schools in india)
    GPA : Can’t translate but can say average ~ 3.1-3.2
    GMAT : 750 Q (99%) V(89%)

    Workex: Got six years of work-ex, all in IT.
    Worked for 2.5 yrs in Indian Railways’ IT division. Was appreciated a numerous times by client and seniors. Was architect of whole system which is deployed across india.

    Worked for 1 yr in US MNC in india. Nothing great here.

    “Nothing great here” isn’t going to impress an admissions committee…

    Currently working for IBM for the last 2 yrs.
    Worked in biggest accounts.
    Led a team of 4 ppl in Singapore in two previous projects.
    Currently leading a team of 7 ppl for a big project with huge cost savings.

    Additional: Nothing great in extra-curriculars. Won a few quiz contests. Represent company in national level quiz.
    Community-Ex: Nothing great here too. Did 1 yr vounteering with NSS (teaching kids).

    Post-MBA goals:
    Want to switch frm an IT-Lead to Business Consultant role. Hv short listed a few schools not sure.

    UT-Austin (Tech Friendly)
    Rotman (Low cost+ wife will get a job easily)
    Indiana (Consulting)

    Questions:
    1. BIG Q -How can i differentiate myself from others in my pool?

    This question is beyond the scope of this thread.

    2. Which all are best schools for consulting?

    The better question is which schools are the best fit for you. This is where you need to start. If you mess up this admission cornerstone, you’re going to be in a lot of trouble.

    3. My chances for UT-Austin,Rotman, Kelley & Purdue.

    You’re going to need a great story without the extracurricular activities and you’ll un-impress the admission committees if you talk repeatedly about how big the accounts on which you work are. More importantly, is your level of responsibility.

    TIA
    Amit

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30263
    AgentOrange
    Participant

    quote:


    Originally posted by AdmissionsConsultants

    Hi and thanks for your inquiry.

    Question regarding low undergrad GPA:

    I’m not going to start applying to MBA programs until I have another year or so of work experience under my belt. I finished my undergrad at a nationally recognized state school with a double-major in Finance and MIS and a GPA of 2.9. Shortly after graduating, I was diagnosed with Obsessive-Compulsive disorder, which caused severe concentration problems in school, and even attendance problems as I was literally afraid to leave my apartment on some days. Since I underwent cognitive-behavioral therapy, I have performed extremely well professionally and made top scores in every professional academic program (ie. continuing education) I have attended.
    Are these circumstances that will be recognized if properly accounted for in my essay? Will it take some of the emphasis off of my low GPA and possibly put more on accomplishments I’ve made after being treated? Also, OCD is covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I don’t know if this helps at all.

    With the proper spin, this can largely mitigate a low undergraduate GPA.

    Thanks

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885


    David,
    Don’t you think it’s a little hipocritical for schools to “forgive” a low GPA with a high GMAT score, yet punish an applicant if they have a low GMAT but with a high GPA? Why the hell did we work so hard in UG for??

    #30266

    Hi and thanks for your inquiry.

    David,
    Don’t you think it’s a little hipocritical for schools to “forgive” a low GPA with a high GMAT score, yet punish an applicant if they have a low GMAT but with a high GPA? Why the hell did we work so hard in UG for??

    I wouldn’t say you necessarily are being punished. You have one leg up on the other applicants and, most probably, a longer track record of overachieving. You also won’t have to worry about an alternate transcript. Additionally, low GMAT scores can also be mitigated.

    You’re certainly free to disagree with the schools’ logic, but they’re looking for analytical skills and aptitude and “what have you done for me lately?” More recent performances almost always triumph more distant performances.

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30269
    DocRoc
    Participant

    A little about myself. I graduated from Johns Hopkins University with a 3.9 GPA and a degree in Philosophy. Despite my rather useless major, I took all of the required pre-med courses and did particularly well in the more quantitative courses (A+s in Intro Chem, Intermediate Inorganic Chem, Physics I and II, Physics Lab I and II, and Intro Logic). I didn’t have any extended involvement in any extracurricular activities as an undergrad; however, I was the captain of my high school JV wrestling team and Varsity volleyball team as well as the President of the National Honor Society. I did volunteer at a clinic for the uninsured during one summer, and I also took a filmmaking workshop at the New York Film Academy during another summer.

    I put off applying to med school by doing research (of questionable quality) part-time at Hopkins and part-time at Harlem Hospital/Columbia for about six months before continuing at Harlem Hospital/Columbia in a more relevant full-time position. During the next few months, I finally made a half-hearted attempt at applying to a few medical schools. Despite my GPA and MCAT (V:13-15; P:13; B:11), I got rejected from all but one school, and that one was not very prestigious. I went there anyway, and ended up leaving after a semester. I took a few months off to try to convince myself to go back and subject myself to a torturous “education” in pursuit of a career with which I was becoming more and more disillusioned. Eventually, I decided that I was being an idiot and went off in search of a new career.

    That new career was as a propietary day trader. I’ve been doing it for a year now, and I like it. It’s easy work, and it’s a lot of fun. The only problem is that I haven’t made any money yet, and I can’t wait around much longer for the market to change.

    So I need a new career, which is what brings me here. I’d like to go to a top five business school as soon as possible. And now the questions.

    Unfortunately, I’m not qualified for too many jobs. I’ve been looking at several manager trainee-type positions (e.g. Enterprise) as well as other similar trainee positions in banking and property management. I’ve also had recruiters calling me about financial planner-type positions. What do you think of these possibilities? Do you have any other suggestions, keeping in mind that I not only want to turn myself into a viable top 5 b-school applicant as soon as possible, but I also would like to be exposed to as broad an overview of the business world as possible, so as to help me in choosing a post-MBA career? What do you think my chances are if I applied right now? Within one year? Within two years? etc. Does your consulting service have any particular expertise or experience in helping clients choose jobs in preparation for business school?

    If I had to summarize my life in two words, I would probably say, “wasted potential.” I’ve always had a lot of potential, but I have no impressive accomplishments and, in fact, several notable failures. I seem to lack focus in my professional and personal activities. I may have failed to mention that in addition to filmmaking, philosophy, medicine, and short-term equity trading, I have pursued interests in breakdancing, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, woodworking, and hip hop music production, just to name a few. I’ve dedicated enough time and effort to these activities that people ask me why the hell I do them but not enough that I have a good answer or justification. What kind of spin should I put on this to make into a good story? Should I ignore it completely and hope no one notices? Should I turn it into a story about how I finally found my calling or finally grew up or finally decided to stop making my parents cry? Or should I try to defend it by saying that having great potential can sometimes make life more difficult because there are so many choices available? I know that last one is a little nonsensical and more than a little arrogant, but I think it’s often the case that people’s career choices are determined more by their weaknesses than by their strengths. Anyway, I think the question here is, when is a story unspinnable?

    And while I’m on the subject of weaknesses and serious character flaws, how inclusive are the business school admissions committee definitions of “leadership” and “team player?” Obviously, a dynamic, charismatic leader is ideal, but not everyone can be a Kennedy. I would think that creating a class with many personality types would create a more interesting and useful learning environment. I ask this because I’m no dynamo, but I have been an effective leader at times. Obviously, I have a habit of rambling and being long-winded when I’m writing, but I’m actually very quiet and introverted in person. I don’t make instant connections with strangers, but most people like and respect me once they get to know me. I prefer to work alone, but when I do have to work in a group, I’m at my best when I take a leadership role. Would an admissions committee be okay with this kind of personality? I know it’s a long shot, but is it possible that they value this kind of personality?

    And that’s all I can think of for now.

    #30281

    Hi and thanks for your inquiry.

    A little about myself. I graduated from Johns Hopkins University with a 3.9 GPA and a degree in Philosophy. Despite my rather useless major, I took all of the required pre-med courses and did particularly well in the more quantitative courses (A+s in Intro Chem, Intermediate Inorganic Chem, Physics I and II, Physics Lab I and II, and Intro Logic). I didn’t have any extended involvement in any extracurricular activities as an undergrad; however, I was the captain of my high school JV wrestling team and Varsity volleyball team as well as the President of the National Honor Society. I did volunteer at a clinic for the uninsured during one summer, and I also took a filmmaking workshop at the New York Film Academy during another summer.

    I put off applying to med school by doing research (of questionable quality) part-time at Hopkins and part-time at Harlem Hospital/Columbia for about six months before continuing at Harlem Hospital/Columbia in a more relevant full-time position. During the next few months, I finally made a half-hearted attempt at applying to a few medical schools. Despite my GPA and MCAT (V:13-15; P:13; B:11), I got rejected from all but one school, and that one was not very prestigious. I went there anyway, and ended up leaving after a semester. I took a few months off to try to convince myself to go back and subject myself to a torturous “education” in pursuit of a career with which I was becoming more and more disillusioned. Eventually, I decided that I was being an idiot and went off in search of a new career.

    That new career was as a propietary day trader. I’ve been doing it for a year now, and I like it. It’s easy work, and it’s a lot of fun. The only problem is that I haven’t made any money yet, and I can’t wait around much longer for the market to change.

    So I need a new career, which is what brings me here. I’d like to go to a top five business school as soon as possible. And now the questions.

    Unfortunately, I’m not qualified for too many jobs. I’ve been looking at several manager trainee-type positions (e.g. Enterprise) as well as other similar trainee positions in banking and property management. I’ve also had recruiters calling me about financial planner-type positions. What do you think of these possibilities? Do you have any other suggestions, keeping in mind that I not only want to turn myself into a viable top 5 b-school applicant as soon as possible, but I also would like to be exposed to as broad an overview of the business world as possible, so as to help me in choosing a post-MBA career? What do you think my chances are if I applied right now? Within one year? Within two years? etc. Does your consulting service have any particular expertise or experience in helping clients choose jobs in preparation for business school?

    If I had to summarize my life in two words, I would probably say, “wasted potential.” I’ve always had a lot of potential, but I have no impressive accomplishments and, in fact, several notable failures. I seem to lack focus in my professional and personal activities. I may have failed to mention that in addition to filmmaking, philosophy, medicine, and short-term equity trading, I have pursued interests in breakdancing, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, woodworking, and hip hop music production, just to name a few. I’ve dedicated enough time and effort to these activities that people ask me why the hell I do them but not enough that I have a good answer or justification. What kind of spin should I put on this to make into a good story? Should I ignore it completely and hope no one notices? Should I turn it into a story about how I finally found my calling or finally grew up or finally decided to stop making my parents cry? Or should I try to defend it by saying that having great potential can sometimes make life more difficult because there are so many choices available? I know that last one is a little nonsensical and more than a little arrogant, but I think it’s often the case that people’s career choices are determined more by their weaknesses than by their strengths. Anyway, I think the question here is, when is a story unspinnable?

    And while I’m on the subject of weaknesses and serious character flaws, how inclusive are the business school admissions committee definitions of “leadership” and “team player?” Obviously, a dynamic, charismatic leader is ideal, but not everyone can be a Kennedy. I would think that creating a class with many personality types would create a more interesting and useful learning environment. I ask this because I’m no dynamo, but I have been an effective leader at times. Obviously, I have a habit of rambling and being long-winded when I’m writing, but I’m actually very quiet and introverted in person. I don’t make instant connections with strangers, but most people like and respect me once they get to know me. I prefer to work alone, but when I do have to work in a group, I’m at my best when I take a leadership role. Would an admissions committee be okay with this kind of personality? I know it’s a long shot, but is it possible that they value this kind of personality?

    And that’s all I can think of for now.

    This post is way too long for this medium. While I don’t mind speaking with prospective applicants for a few minutes on the phone, and covering this amount of material, this beyond the scope of this thread. Obviously, the amount of material covered within a one-hour initial consultation goes into far greater detail and is conducted by a consultant far more knowledgeable than yours truly who shares everything s/he knows.

    The short bit of advice is do what you enjoy. From a pure admissions standpoint, the financial-planner type positions are not normally as helpful as the general management trainee positions. Obviously, you’ll find both types of backgrounds represented in b-schools and different career tracks will be more beneficial for some folks than others.

    Yes, we offer such pre-admissions career advice and we’ve been doing so since 1996. Many of our consultants have been COOs or managers or partners in consulting firms or investment banks. We’re well versed in this area.

    Finally, your assumption that not all successful applicants are as charismatic as Kennedy or led teams of 50+ people is correct. Don’t let some crazy hype cause you to begin ’embellishing’ in your story.

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30282
    Toribio
    Participant

    David,

    I just discovered this forum, and have to say it is aweosme to have someone help out! We are all stressed out and having someone answer questions really helps.
    Is it true that if I didnt do great in the verbal part of my GMAT (76%) the AdComm will consider the fact that English is not my native language even if I did undergrad in the US? I got a 6.0 on the AWA but hear they dont really look at that, true?
    Also, I started my college career in France, and since I did not speak French when I moved there, my first yea results were not good. I have tried to explain this in the additional information section, but want to be realistic about how HBS, Wharton, etc will feel about this. any insights?
    Thanks!!

    #30283
    Toribio
    Participant

    I just read a letter where you answer what you think odds might be for HBS and/or Wharton.
    Since these are my first two choices I wonder if you’d tell me what you think my chances of getting into those schools is.

    GPA:3.69 BS in Business with a concentration in International Finance. Minor: Mathematics
    GMAT: 680 (90%) (Math 93% Verbal 76% AWA 6.0)
    Im Costa Rican, started college in France (3yrs) and then graduated from a US school (3yrs)
    I will have 3.5 yrs work experience, most in the Investment Banking Industry for Central America. I speak Spanish, ENglish, and French fluently. I am focusing my application on my international experience and solid work experience.
    I volunteer at a local FOundation, and recently ventured in starting my own small business.
    Do you think my profile fits within what the AdComms are looking for. Any suggestion on application strategies/tips?
    Thank you!!!!

    #30286
    ralizadeh
    Participant

    Hello David,

    I received my GMAT scores today and to my dismay i saw that i scored a 3 on the AWA section. My overall GMAT score was 710 (45 quant, 41 verbal), but due to nervousness at the beginning of the exam, i did extremely poorly on the essays. I was happy with my GMAT score before seeing my AWA score. I heard that schools generally ignore the AWA score, is there any truth to this? Do i need to retake my GMAT in order to raise my AWA? Can i simply explain my low score in the essay?

    Note:I plan on applying to HBS and Wharton along with one or two other top b-schools.

    Thanks in advance!

    Reza

    #30289
    kevin007
    Participant

    David,

    It is very nice of you to take the time to give people advice on MBA admissions. I know all of us are very appreciative of your assistance.

    I am planning on applying to a range of top 30 programs this year (Columbia, Cornell, Chicago, UVA, UNC, USC, Texas, Michigan, Oxford, Cambridge) and I wanted to know what you thought of my admissions chances.

    Undergraduate:

    University of Southern California (3.06 GPA), majored in Accounting/Accounting Information Systems

    (Note: GPA was consistent throughout and program usually ranked among top 5 undergraduate)

    Work Experience (4 years total):

    – 2 years at Big 4 audit firm. Consistently ranked in top 10% of class and selected for high profile, national accounts. Promoted to Senior Auditor. Obtained CPA license.

    – 1 year at Fortune 500 company as Financial Analyst doing carve-out financials and special projects.

    – 1 year at growing national consulting/contracting firm that primarily employs MBAs/CPAs. Recent projects include Sarbanes-Oxley attestation and Risk Management consulting. Placed in top 5% of Firm in earned revenues and ranked #1 in West Coast. Extremely active in business development (landed multiple new clients) and recruiting. One of few people to be promoted and given significant raise in only 6 months. Up for additional promotion to Team Leader.

    GMAT:

    -720 overall. (Total 96%, Math 85%, Verbal 93%)

    Extra-curricular:

    Was active in student groups and events on campus – Beta Alpha Psi (National Accounting Honors Fraternity), Accounting Society, Greek Fraternity, Lacrosse Team

    In addition to typically working 60 hrs/week (at times over 100hr/wk) continue to be active leader and participant in work-related extra-curriculars such as Social Committee, event planning, recruiting, Intern & New Hire buddy, etc.

    The questions I have are:

    1) What do you think my odds are of getting into the above listed schools considering my relatively low GPA? I know I am very capable of handling the course loads and feel that to some extent I have demonstrated my abilities through the GMAT and by being able to compete very effectively with peers in my work experience. Will GPA be my downfall? Is there anything else I can do for the Fall 2006 application year?

    2) I have noticed that for some schools (eg. Berkeley) only a very small portion of admitted students (<2%) had audit and/or accounting work experience. Is it more difficult to get into MBA programs with an accounting background? Is this experience for some strange reason considered less valuable?

    3) For schools that have 5 rounds like Cornell, is there any benefit to submitting my application in the 2nd round to avoid the 1st round “sharks”?

    I apologized for writing so much. I just wanted to be thorough and provide you with enough information to form a solid opinion. Thank you so much for your help! Any advice/recommendations you could provide me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    Warm Regards,

    Kevin

    #30299

    Hi and thanks for your inquiry.

    We have been very busy, so that’s why I haven’t replied to anyone in a while. Doug Braithwaite is already nearing full capacity and other consultants are at full capacity or quickly getting there. (Then again, if we weren’t busy and I was spending all my time here it would mean we didn’t know what we were doing and/or we charge way too much money.)

    David,

    I just discovered this forum, and have to say it is aweosme to have someone help out! We are all stressed out and having someone answer questions really helps.
    Is it true that if I didnt do great in the verbal part of my GMAT (76%) the AdComm will consider the fact that English is not my native language even if I did undergrad in the US? I got a 6.0 on the AWA but hear they dont really look at that, true?
    Also, I started my college career in France, and since I did not speak French when I moved there, my first yea results were not good. I have tried to explain this in the additional information section, but want to be realistic about how HBS, Wharton, etc will feel about this. any insights?
    Thanks!!

    I see no reason why both of these issues can’t be mitigated with the right spins. If you just look at the published GMAT ranges, you’ll see plenty of admitted applicants with percentile scores below the mythical 80 percentile. I also know for a fact that we personally assist many such applicants each year.

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30300

    Hi and thanks for your inquiry.

    I just read a letter where you answer what you think odds might be for HBS and/or Wharton.
    Since these are my first two choices I wonder if you’d tell me what you think my chances of getting into those schools is.

    GPA:3.69 BS in Business with a concentration in International Finance. Minor: Mathematics
    GMAT: 680 (90%) (Math 93% Verbal 76% AWA 6.0)
    Im Costa Rican, started college in France (3yrs) and then graduated from a US school (3yrs)
    I will have 3.5 yrs work experience, most in the Investment Banking Industry for Central America. I speak Spanish, ENglish, and French fluently. I am focusing my application on my international experience and solid work experience.
    I volunteer at a local FOundation, and recently ventured in starting my own small business.
    Do you think my profile fits within what the AdComms are looking for. Any suggestion on application strategies/tips?
    Thank you!!!!

    I’m not really sure what you’re looking for, but with the right spin and a strong ‘wow’ factor, you should be very competitive at HBS and Wharton.

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

    #30302

    Hi Reza and thanks for your inquiry.

    Hello David,

    I received my GMAT scores today and to my dismay i saw that i scored a 3 on the AWA section. My overall GMAT score was 710 (45 quant, 41 verbal), but due to nervousness at the beginning of the exam, i did extremely poorly on the essays. I was happy with my GMAT score before seeing my AWA score. I heard that schools generally ignore the AWA score, is there any truth to this? Do i need to retake my GMAT in order to raise my AWA? Can i simply explain my low score in the essay?

    Note:I plan on applying to HBS and Wharton along with one or two other top b-schools.

    The schools are taking increasingly closer looks at the AWA score. Depending on what else you have in your profile to mitigate concerns about your written communication skills, it may make sense to retake the exam.

    Thanks in advance!

    Reza

    Best of luck with your applications!

    Sincerely,

    David Petersam
    President
    AdmissionsConsultants, Inc.
    DPetersam@admissionsconsultants.com

    AdmissionsConsultants
    703.242.5885

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