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  • #51478

    Hello everyone!

    The University of Arizona James E. Rogers College of Law has announced it will accept the GRE as well as the LSAT effective immediately. The school gave the standard “to attract the best and most diverse class of applicants” explanation.

    The impetus of this move is a new study from Educational Testing Service, the owner of the GRE, which claimed its test is just as effective as the LSAT, when coupled with undergraduate GPA, in predicting the 1L academic performance. As of the time of this post, the LSAC, perhaps smartly, has declined to comment on the ETS study.

    Quite simply, Interpretation 503-1 of ABA Standards and Rules of Procedure for Approval of Law Schools 2015-2016 states:

    “A law school that uses an admission test other than the Law School Admission Test sponsored by the Law School Admission Council shall demonstrate that such other test is a valid and reliable test to assist the school in assessing an applicant’s capability to satisfactorily complete the school’s program of legal education.”

    The big unknown is whether the ABA will accept the ETS study. If they do, we expect most (if not literally all!) law schools to begin accepting both tests within a very short period of time. Of course, if the ABA doesn’t accept the GRE, we’re especially interested in knowing what will happen to any students admitted on the basis of their GRE scores…

    Best of luck with your applications!

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    #51656

    Hello everyone!

    Just a quick note that the Wall Street Journal has an update on how Arizona State is threatening legal action against the LSAC in response to that group’s exploration of expelling ASU from its membership. (Such an expulsion would eliminate a vital pipeline to applicants and make it harder for applicants to apply to ASU since they would have to use a completely separate application form.) The article, linked above, also includes a quote about how a legal action to LSAC’s very strong market position would be a tough sell.

    Best of luck with your applications!

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    #51660

    drago994
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    Is the GRE easier than the LSAT? It’s also standardized and the same arguments about discriminating against non whites and Asians would hold true. Flame away, but this seems like a desperation move to get more applicants.

    #51667

    Hello everyone!

    Just a brief update that 149 law school deans signed this letter urging the ABA not to expel Arizona State for its use of the GRE. It argues that the GRE is only a small part of the admissions process and that such experimentation ultimately benefits all law schools.

    Best of luck with your applications!

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    #51681

    Hello everyone!

    Just another brief update to let everyone following this story know that LSAC has backed off its threats to punish University of Arizona for accepting the GRE “barring other substantial developments.” We expect other law schools to being following suit.

    As of now, we still encourage you to take the LSAT as it’s far more widely accepted and because a study dismissing the GRE’s predictive value for law school success would almost certainly qualify as a “substantial development” in our opinion.

    Best of luck with your applications!

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    #51726

    puff95
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    LOL Drago. I hear what you’re saying. Was thinking the same thing.

    #51733

    Hello everyone!

    Inside Higher Ed reports that a few law schools are now open to the possibility of also accepting the GRE. Assuming the LSAC doesn’t change its current position, we foresee many law schools accepting the GRE within the next 5 years.

    Best of luck with your applications!

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    #51850

    Hello everyone!

    Above the Law reported the LSAC may no longer certify the admissions data of schools that also accept the GRE. This is, apparently, over concern the GRE and LSAT scores aren’t going to allow for accurate comparisons. (Percentile scores anyone?) Given how the 149 law school deans pushed back hard (see May 6 post above) when the ABA considered expelling Arizona, we don’t expect this certification threat to stop any additional law schools from accepting the GRE.

    Best of luck with your applications!

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